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BILL O'REILLY: Do you believe in the world, we have a Muslim problem?
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: No.
GOLDBERG: I think we have a terrorist problem.
O'REILLY: OK. So, you don't believe we have a Muslim problem. Would you agree with me that if all the good Muslims, and I think they overwhelm the bad Muslims, OK? Would cooperate with the West, with the United States and NATO and other countries, that we wouldn't have a terrorist problem? For example, if Pakistan would cooperate with the United States, we wouldn't have the Taliban problem in Afghanistan. We would defeat them.
GOLDBERG: That would all be great if that's how it worked.
O'REILLY: But that's how it works.
GOLDBERG: But it isn't how it works, because, if you recall -- think of it this way, that crazy gentleman, I take that back because that's rude -- the gentleman that said he was going to burn the Koran, that got played all around the world.
O'REILLY: You mean the nut down in Florida?
GOLDBERG: I'm not going to say that.
O'REILLY: OK, I will. But that, you're diverting the attention.
GOLDBERG: No, no, I'm not. Listen to my point.
O'REILLY: All right. Go ahead.
GOLDBERG: So, all the people who are watching around the world saying, boy, America feels like that, so Americans....
O'REILLY: See, but I disagree. I don't think Muslims think that everybody is like that crazy guy. I don't believe that. But let's get back to Pakistan. Pakistan, if they would help us...
GOLDBERG: No, no. Bill, Bill.
O'REILLY: ...we could win that.
GOLDBERG: Bill, do you think that the people in Pakistan, the people who live in Pakistan, the poor people, the people who don't have any say, you think they don't want help to help the West?
O'REILLY: A lot of them don't. The madrassa -- do you know what a madrassa is?
GOLDBERG: No, I don't. (I have to say, I'm surprised that she admitted that.)
O'REILLY: OK. Madrassa is a school that teaches Islamic jihad and there are madrassas all over the Muslim world. They teach 4 and 5-year-old kids to hate people.
GOLDBERG: Bill, that may be true...
O'REILLY: It is true.
GOLDBERG: It may be true. I can't prove it. You've clearly been... (But you COULD prove it if you were interested in learning about something that you know nothing about. But since you're clearly not interested in the truth, let's just continue as if you have something meaningful to say.)
O'REILLY: I can.
GOLDBERG: You've clearly been to them and I will take your word for it. But that does not change the fact that when you paint all Muslims with one brush, it's bad.
O'REILLY: I'm not painting all Muslims with one brush.
GOLDBERG: But when you say Muslims killed us, when you don't specify. It's like saying whenever I see black men coming down the street, I'm scared. That's the same...
O'REILLY: Do you have a problem in history when you were taught about World War II that Japanese attacked us? Do you have a problem with that?
GOLDBERG: I have a problem with that.
O'REILLY: Do you?
O'REILLY: But they attacked us?
GOLDBERG: The Japanese...
O'REILLY: Attacked us.
GOLDBERG: ...army attacked us. (THAT is her quibble with the statement that the United States was attacked by the Japanese?! That because ALL of the Japanese folks who lived in Japan weren't in the planes that day, that somehow changes the fact that it was the Japanese that attacked us?! Is she on glue?!)
O'REILLY: The air force did.
GOLDBERG: Sorry, the air force did. You understand my point? (If your point is that you are completely idiotic in the nits that you want to pick, then yes. We've come to an agreement.)
O'REILLY: No, I don't, because I think you are cutting the hair so thin. We have a Muslim problem in the world in the sense that 90 percent of the terrorism....
GOLDBERG: Bill, we're going to disagree.
O'REILLY: Comes from that area.
GOLDBERG: You know what? What do you mean 90 percent of the terrorists...
GOLDBERG: ...are from everywhere. They are white.
O'REILLY: No, predominantly they are Muslims.
GOLDBERG: Right now. (Yes, right now! What in the hell else would he be referring to? Wait. Don't answer that. What in the hell are you referring to? For cryin' out loud...)
O'REILLY: Right. That's what we are talking about.
GOLDBERG: Right now, everybody can say the Muslims are the terrorists. Two years ago, it was the white people that were the terrorists.
O'REILLY: What white people?
GOLDBERG: Oh, wasn't it white people that blew up Oklahoma City? (Does she know that Muslim isn't a race? It's not like you can be black or white or Asian or Muslim. Does she get that? I'm getting the sense that she does not.)
O'REILLY: Yes, two of them. Two of them.
(I have to interject. The Oklahoma City bombing was not TWO years ago. And that was DIFFERENT. If you don't understand the difference between the Oklahoma City bombing and terrorism by Muslim extremists, then I can't help you. I doubt that anyone can.)
GOLDBERG: What about all the folks...
O'REILLY: It's like saying crime is white is black.
GOLDBERG: Bill, we disagree. (It's not just Bill that disagrees with you, you nut job.)
O'REILLY: All right. We disagree.
GOLDBERG: We disagree on this.
O'REILLY: But I just want to be clear.
GOLDBERG: And it's OK.
O'REILLY: We have to have these discussions.
GOLDBERG: We must have these discussions. (And if we must have these discussions, it would really help if you don't storm off the set of your show when one of these discussions is being had. That's the only way that they're going to get had. Then again, I'm not so sure if this particular discussion is necessary. I'm finding it rather frustrating.)
O'REILLY: Right. But I just want to be clear and I'll give you the last word on this and then we'll get to your book. (Ohhhhh. She has a book. No wonder she appeared on his show. Gotcha.)
O'REILLY: I believe there is a Muslim problem in the world. (I really wish that he would specify "radical Muslim" or "Muslim extremist". That's the only part of his argument that I have a problem with. Don't get me wrong. I can't stand Bill O'Reilly most of the time. But I haven't found much to quibble with, other than this, during this exchange.)
O'REILLY: And that's what I was trying to get across to you guys on "The View."
O'REILLY: That 70 percent of Americans believe the way I do. They thought it was inappropriate to make a Muslim community center that close to Ground Zero. That was my point.
GOLDBERG: I understood your point. What did I not understand and I will just reiterate it again because...
O'REILLY: I just left out the word terrorist.
GOLDBERG: Yes. Because in this day and age when kids are getting their butts kicked because they are Muslim, OK?
O'REILLY: Not so much.
GOLDBERG: Bill, are you kidding me?
O'REILLY: New study today, Jews in America are far more likely to be persecuted than Muslims, just came out today.
GOLDBERG: You know what? I'm sure that someone believes that, but I believe that in neighborhoods where they don't want Muslims, they beat up kids. (That's exactly the problem. You can give someone like Whoopi some sort of data to back up your point and they just choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit their self-defined narrative that they're so freaking proud of. Thank God she's just a talk show participant. If she had much more influence, I'd be more concerned.)
Sunday, November 28, 2010
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